I am almost incoherent with anger right now.
In a continuing run of bad luck with me and banking, over the weekend I misplaced my long-fought-for Citibank ATM card. This was very, very irritating, because Citibank on Tuesday this week was finally going to give me access to funds that I had deposited into that account last week Saturday -- a full 11 days, 7 of them working days, to deposit money from a cheque drawn on a Citibank branch, deposited at another Citibank branch, into a Citibank account. So after waiting and waiting, I finally have the money, but now the ATM card is gone so I can't spend it.
Ok, no problem, right? I'll report the card lost, then transfer money from that account into my shiny new Wells Fargo account, where I will have an ATM card sooner than the replacement card from Citibank will arrive. Or even transfer money into my UK bank account, where I already have an ATM card, though that will take almost as long.
But guess what? Apparently your online banking ID is linked to your ATM card number, so when you lose it you get locked out of online banking. So, just when you don't have real-world access to your money, you get locked out of online access to it as well. Phone access? No way, they don't do money transfers over telephone banking. No, not just because the account is locked: not ever.
Okay, I'm not entirely faultless here. I lost my ATM card, that was stupid. But I bank with three other banks. I know for a fact that two of them have their online and ATM card ID systems completely separate. Those two also do money transfers over the phone. This is not rocket science. Why on earth would you lock me out of online banking, anyway? My online banking requires a username and a password -- not my ATM card number or my PIN, even if my ATM card had my PIN scrawled across it in neon lettering.
They also have a number of subsidiary stupidities that make the process more painful. For instance, their website lists contact information for lost or stolen credit cards. Except that number doesn't work properly: I have to call it three times to get it to even ring. Once I get through on that number, a pleasant man asks me to identify myself with various pieces of personal information. I do this, and then he informs me that no, this is the credit card number. ATM cards are a different number. Is that number on the website? Had I missed it? No, it's an internal number. He'll transfer me.
He transfers me, and an automated prompt asks me for all the same information again. I enter that information, and somebody picks up. The system has worked out that I'm a Global Executive Banking customer, a special designation which, despite the name, seems to mean "make things inconvenient for this guy. Not just a bit tricky like normal, but really stupendously unhelpful." A man answers the phone and asks me for the same personal information again. Why, I ask, is it necessary for me to identify myself to him if I identified myself before he even picked up? Apparently "that's the automated system". Yes, I know, and all the other automated banking systems I've ever dealt with are quite capable of flashing up my verified identity on the screen of the person who answers the phone. No, not Citibank, not for their global executive banking customers, apparently.
After I discover the bad news about the online banking, I immediately call them back trying to transfer over the phone. No, I can only do it over the phone or by going into a branch during working hours. Oh, wait, you're a Global Executive Banking customer, a program which, let's remind ourselves, is supposed to be designed for people who live outside of the US and therefore can only conduct banking over the phone. Well, of course you have a way to transfer money by phone, sir. You have to call another number though. Between 9 and 5pm. Eastern time. Sucks to be a Japanese global executive, huh? You can only do your global executive banking in the middle of the fucking night!
I am disgusted at the levels of service these bastards have shelled out to me, while insincerely thanking me for my custom at the end of every call. As soon as is technically feasible I am shunting all my money straight out of there and closing the account. And if I could set fire to their web page, I'd do that too.
It has not been a good day.
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Stephen
> I'd do that too.
Why, actually ... http://stake.quasimondo.com/
Mikey
I am guessing this is just a part of the North American Banking Syndrome. I've been trying to transfer some money from one of my Canadian accounts to another. These are banking accounts designed *specifically* for people who involved in immigrating to Canada (and thus are not necessarily in Canada). They refused to do any sort of phone transfers and their online transfers are limited only to 500 *Canadian* dollars a day and to 1500 per week. Oh and any non-internal transfers are forbidden entirely!
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greg
I will still swear on a stack of bibles that foreigner-banking service in the UK is even worse... I mean, at least you got a debit card in the first place, which, after banking with HSBC for more than a year, I never did. Then again, I had a lot less money than you.
suraj
SONGAPORE_JACKIE
We applied for mortgage loan after having 6 years of good experience and trust with credit cards.
Loan officer never calls back until there is any deadline and you leave voice mails and emails for 2-3 days and call their manager or customer service department.
We applied with them 45 days prior to our closing date, submitted all the papers. We didn't get any reponse until our loan approval date and after 2-4 days effort to contact loan officer. Then by evening we were told about missing papers and request for date extension.
after next extended date , same process no response until deadline and call to manager and then told that underwriting will take another 5 days.
Every time we were given lame excuse like due to their cash back promotion they have heavy call volumes.
for $1000 cash back you will get $10000 stress and will give another $10000 stress to seller in this market
MCAP MORTGAGE SERVICES - THE WORST MORTGAGE COMPANY
Posted: 2007-09-29 by Robert A [send email]
MCAP MORTGAGE SERVICE IS NOT HONOURABLE
Complaint Rating:
IF YOU HAVE A MORTGAGE WITH MCAP MORTGAGE SERVICES, THEN GET OUT NOW AND DO NOT RENEW YOUR MORTGAGE WITH THEM.
THEY HAVE THE WORST REPUTATION WHEN IT COMES TO CUSTOMER SERVICE. AS A LENDER THEY MAY OFFER YOU CHEAP RATES, BUT ONCVE YOU ARE A CLIENT YOU SHOULD BE WARY AS THEY WILL NOT HONOR ANY COMITTMENT LETTER.
TAKE YOUR MORTGAGE ELSEWHERE IF YOU WANT PEACE OF MIND...
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"MCAP.COM WILL NOT HONO0UR ANY OF THEIR COMITTMENT LETTERS
Posted: 2007-09-29 by S. DEVINCE [send email]
MCAP.COM DOES NOT HONOUR THEIR COMITTMENT LETTERS AND ONCE THEY HAVE YOUR BUSINESS THEY WILL
Complaint Rating:
If your mortgage broker provides you a comittment letter from MCAP Mortgage
you should know it has no value.
At the last minute they will dedcide not to honour their comittment letter.
Mortgage brokers and realtors have recently started to advise clients not to deal
with MCAP as they are completely untrustworthy.
MCAP is Canada's worst mortgage COMPANY
I have tried to devise the absolute worst mortgage loan that I can imagine. Fortunately, this loan commitment received is nothing more than a figment of my imagination -- at least, as far as I know.
I made it hard on myself. Although I dreamed it up, the Canada's worst mortgage provider I couldn't include anything that doesn't exist in the market today. So that disqualifies imaginary elements, such as mortgages written on acid-spraying exploding clay tablets. I just took the worst elements of all the existing mortgages and assembled them. Here's what I came up with:
Canada's worst mortgage: MCAP Mortgage Services does not honour promises. If you have a mortgage with MCAP make sure you transfer out as soon as your mortgage comes up for renewal.
MCAP WORST MORTGAGE COMPANY
I am almost incoherent with anger right now.
In a continuing run of bad luck with me and banking, over the weekend I misplaced my long-fought-for MCAP MORTGAGE ATM card. This was very, very irritating, because MCAP MORTGAGE on Tuesday this week was finally going to give me access to funds that I had deposited into that account last week Saturday -- a full 11 days, 7 of them working days, to deposit money from a cheque drawn on a MCAP MORTGAGE branch, deposited at another MCAP MORTGAGE branch, into a MCAP MORTGAGE account. So after waiting and waiting, I finally have the money, but now the ATM card is gone so I can't spend it.
Ok, no problem, right? I'll report the card lost, then transfer money from that account into my shiny new Wells Fargo account, where I will have an ATM card sooner than the replacement card from MCAP MORTGAGE will arrive. Or even transfer money into my UK bank account, where I already have an ATM card, though that will take almost as long.
But guess what? Apparently your online banking ID is linked to your ATM card number, so when you lose it you get locked out of online banking. So, just when you don't have real-world access to your money, you get locked out of online access to it as well. Phone access? No way, they don't do money transfers over telephone banking. No, not just because the account is locked: not ever.
Okay, I'm not entirely faultless here. I lost my ATM card, that was stupid. But I bank with three other banks. I know for a fact that two of them have their online and ATM card ID systems completely separate. Those two also do money transfers over the phone. This is not rocket science. Why on earth would you lock me out of online banking, anyway? My online banking requires a username and a password -- not my ATM card number or my PIN, even if my ATM card had my PIN scrawled across it in neon lettering.
They also have a number of subsidiary stupidities that make the process more painful. For instance, their website lists contact information for lost or stolen credit cards. Except that number doesn't work properly: I have to call it three times to get it to even ring. Once I get through on that number, a pleasant man asks me to identify myself with various pieces of personal information. I do this, and then he informs me that no, this is the credit card number. ATM cards are a different number. Is that number on the website? Had I missed it? No, it's an internal number. He'll transfer me.
He transfers me, and an automated prompt asks me for all the same information again. I enter that information, and somebody picks up. The system has worked out that I'm a Global Executive Banking customer, a special designation which, despite the name, seems to mean "make things inconvenient for this guy. Not just a bit tricky like normal, but really stupendously unhelpful." A man answers the phone and asks me for the same personal information again. Why, I ask, is it necessary for me to identify myself to him if I identified myself before he even picked up? Apparently "that's the automated system". Yes, I know, and all the other automated banking systems I've ever dealt with are quite capable of flashing up my verified identity on the screen of the person who answers the phone. No, not MCAP MORTGAGE, not for their global executive banking customers, apparently.
After I discover the bad news about the online banking, I immediately call them back trying to transfer over the phone. No, I can only do it over the phone or by going into a branch during working hours. Oh, wait, you're a Global Executive Banking customer, a program which, let's remind ourselves, is supposed to be designed for people who live outside of the US and therefore can only conduct banking over the phone. Well, of course you have a way to transfer money by phone, sir. You have to call another number though. Between 9 and 5pm. Eastern time. Sucks to be a Japanese global executive, huh? You can only do your global executive banking in the middle of the fucking night!
I am disgusted at the levels of service these bastards have shelled out to me, while insincerely thanking me for my custom at the end of every call. As soon as is technically feasible I am shunting all my money straight out of there and closing the account. And if I could set fire to their web page, I'd do that too.
It has not been a good day.
mcap mortgage holders it is time for you to transfer your mortgage
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Ralph Goodson
I hold accounts with several major banks in the UK and my experience of Citibank is the complete opposite. Far from giving me `quick and easy access to my money,’ they seem to place every conceivable obstacle in my way. There blanket solution to their many service issues is to send me another Citicard, which means I have to register another user name, another password and another e-pin.
I would list the problems I have had with them, but hey, life is too short......
Irving
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